Episode 14
Calm from the Inside Out: The Brain-Body Science Behind Nervous System Healing
If your nervous system still feels stuck despite therapy, rest, or mindset work, there may be more going on beneath the surface.
In this episode, Lauren Dry talks with NeuroBalance Clinic founder Lauren Rogers about the science behind nervous system regulation and the role of neurotechnology in healing.
Lauren Rogers shares clinical insights alongside her own personal story of burnout and health collapse, including how brain-based tools supported her and her son through periods of high stress and sensory overload.
You’ll hear us explore:
- Why mindset work and talk therapy don’t always shift deep patterns
- How neurofeedback, brain mapping, and light therapy support regulation
- What these tools offer kids struggling with anxiety or sensory challenges
- Why safety and physiological support are key to lasting change
- The value of data in tracking healing and building hope
Whether you’re recovering from chronic stress or supporting a child through dysregulation, this episode offers a clear, compassionate look at how healing the brain supports the whole system.
Resources Mentioned:
- Learn more about Rise into Regulation™, the skillset for connection, communication, and Nervous System safety in modern marriage
- Follow Lauren on Instagram @lauren_dry
- Connect with Lauren Rogers on Instagram @neurobalance.clinic
- Explore Lauren Rogers’ work at NeuroBalance Clinic
If something in this episode resonated, please share it with a friend, leave a review, or connect with me on Instagram. I love hearing what lands for you.
Big love,
Lauren x
Transcript
[00:00:00] Lauren Dry:
[:[00:00:33] Lauren Dry: That's giving so many others in modern driven relationships, back clarity and ease for good.
[:[00:00:47] Lauren Dry: Clarity and ease is at the heart of it all and we are so happy to be with you so that you can have what you need in connection mind, body, and soul too.
[:[00:00:56] Meet Lauren Rogers: Psychology, Neurotech & Nervous System Healing
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[:[00:01:05] Lauren Dry: Clinic and
[:[00:01:21] Lauren Dry: Welcome to the studio, Lauren.
[:[00:01:26] What a Brain Scan Really Reveals
[:[00:01:37] Lauren Rogers: Okay.
[:[00:01:38] Lauren Dry: I mean, I've done a lot of work myself. I'm really passionate about regulation and I know a lot of my listeners are gonna [00:01:45] really relate to this.
[:[00:02:11] Lauren Dry: The first thing I was really curious about was how visible [00:02:15] really is it? How tangible is it to be able to have a clear data-driven picture of the state of my nervous system? I think a lot of people really wonder how much of this is really in our heads.
[:[00:02:50] Lauren Dry: I was so fascinated about what this was gonna look like and intimidated, not gonna lie,
[:[00:02:58] Lauren Rogers: good, right?
[:[00:03:00] Lauren Dry: like, am I gonna walk in here thinking
[:[00:03:09] Lauren Rogers: No.
[:[00:03:31] Lauren Dry: tool
[:[00:03:49] Lauren Dry: And then, did the brain tap exercise and, and used that machine and then afterwards we did a scan. So these results, for me personally, are [00:04:00] incredibly fascinating. but as someone who's a specialist in this
[:[00:04:20] Lauren Dry: personally, I'm really excited to, as we go through the podcast a little bit deeper, just hear how much of an effect this has had on your life, not only personally, but for your kids as well.
[:[00:04:40] Lauren Dry: take them by surprise?
[:[00:04:41] Lauren Rogers: So I use a form of neurotechnology called Brain [00:04:45] Entrainment. it's a really simple passive neurotechnology that can help change your brainwave state. And when we can change our brainwave state, we can change the, uh, impact on our nervous system. [00:05:00] So for a lot of people, we live very stressful, very complicated lives, and it can be quite difficult to access that parasympathetic state, so having a machine that you can press a button [00:05:15] and it can do that for you, can have huge implications for stress management, for people with anxiety, for neurodivergent people, stress and the health of our bodies is really applicable to [00:05:30] everyone.
[:[00:05:43] Why Parasympathetic State is the Real Superpower
[:[00:05:51] Lauren Rogers: or flight. So our sympathetic nervous system is really beneficial, in certain
[:[00:06:00] Lauren Rogers: into that parasympathetic state afterwards. that causes dysfunction in the nervous system and it has a huge
[:[00:06:21] Lauren Rogers: I mean, it can impact almost every part of the body.
[:[00:06:33] Lauren Dry: Yeah. Yeah.
[:[00:06:37] Lauren Dry: I'm so fascinated by the physical aspects of this, and I've touched on it on the podcast before. Something I found really, really fascinating when,
[:[00:06:42] Lauren Dry: I was probably at my most stressed, but things looked [00:06:45] the best on the outside was when my body was really starting to break down in the most, unexpected ways.
[:[00:07:13] Lauren Dry: Most interesting in, [00:07:15] in my elbows. all up and down my back, all over my face. acne as a grown adult, if anyone
[:[00:07:23] Lauren Dry: is experiencing
[:[00:07:24] Lauren Dry: oh, we wanna say it's fine, it's no big deal, but it's just, I was [00:07:30] so visually hit in the face with the fact that my body was not coping and it was a really alarming wake up call for me to realize that we can't disregard the link between the mind and the [00:07:45] body.
[:[00:08:06] Lauren Dry: that so many of us have. If I can do it on my own, I'm gonna do it. and interestingly, probably the one that that took me off guard the most and, [00:08:15] and gave me a wake up call was when I started to get these tiny little rashes on the tips of my fingers.
[:[00:08:48] How Modern Life Overwhelms the Nervous System
[:[00:09:00] Lauren Rogers: More so than than ever before, and our body was never supposed to live in a world like this. Our nervous system is still in the same nervous system from 2000 years ago, and there is no way, evolutionary speaking that [00:09:15] it could catch up to the way technology is moving forward as quickly as it is, we could never evolve at the same speed in which our world is evolving.
[:[00:09:26] Lauren Rogers: think that it's really common. I think that it's really common for people to have [00:09:30] these physical effects of stress that they can push through and just keep going. whereas if you broke your leg,
[:[00:09:41] Lauren Rogers: But we don't have that same
[:[00:10:03] Lauren Rogers: So it's hugely important, but we are conditioned to just keep pushing it aside and,
[:[00:10:10] Lauren Rogers: It is. Yeah.
[:[00:10:11] Lauren Rogers: I'm operating on, you know, four hours sleep and look at me. Go [00:10:15] and yeah.
[:[00:10:32] Lauren Dry: switch off from our relationships in the world, but I think it's so important to have a moment in time where we check ourselves and make that decision.
[:[00:10:42] Lauren Dry: Or am I having a health check every [00:10:45] once in a while and discovering what my own values are, where I'm in alignment, where I'm not, and where I just need some support, learning how to ask for
[:[00:10:56] Lauren Dry: I'll tell you I'm there for you, girl,
[:[00:10:58] Lauren Dry: I
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[:[00:11:03] Lauren Dry: working on it.
[:[00:11:05] Lauren Rogers: what.
[:[00:11:19] Lauren Rogers: I see kids as young as five. All the way to 95. I see people who, have chronic illness, and how managing their stress, 'cause that in itself is a really stressful experience [00:11:30] to go through, how that can help their body recover, reduce inflammation. but I also know from,
[:[00:11:38] Lauren Rogers: as you know
[:[00:11:45] Lauren Rogers: If anyone's ever been in the family court before. That is incredibly stressful. once you get on that train, once you are on that system, that's it. You are really not in control of what happens. You are
[:[00:11:59] Lauren Rogers: [00:12:00] in that process
[:[00:12:01] Lauren Rogers: honestly just hanging on for dear life. and being someone who has studied psychology, who works with wellness technology, who knows all the things that I should [00:12:15] be doing, who has access to some of the best wellness technologies in the world, I am so lucky to just be able to, jump in to a hyperbaric chamber in the middle of my lunch break and do that.
[:[00:12:46] Lauren Rogers: I was on medication, and
[:[00:12:50] Lauren Rogers: not even really medication helped that much either. So
[:[00:12:54] Lauren Rogers: coming out of that experience, um, [00:13:00] I, I then fell. I just, I fell into a hole, so I was clearly just switched on and hanging on throughout the three years that we were doing that. And then once it was over and I kind of went,
[:[00:13:14] Lauren Rogers: [00:13:15] my body just completely collapsed. So for three months. I was doing tests with my doctor, and I'm so grateful that I have such an amazing GP who was really working with me to figure out what was the problem.
[:[00:13:33] Lauren Rogers: look, you either have cancer or you have, uh, Crohn's or something like that and you need to go for a colonoscopy and an endoscopy. It turns out I [00:13:45] had,
[:[00:13:48] Lauren Rogers: all through my
[:[00:13:50] Lauren Rogers: not caused
[:[00:13:51] Lauren Rogers: the bacteria one, which everyone always says, oh, but that's caused by this.
[:[00:14:01] Lauren Rogers: was bleeding out, so.
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[:[00:14:39] Lauren Dry: I think it's also to like have that health check as well before, you know, like, where am I at? Where is like, [00:14:45] where am I pushing through? And my body's starting to bear the
[:[00:14:49] Lauren Rogers: And
[:[00:14:51] Lauren Rogers: I mean,
[:[00:14:55] Lauren Rogers: There was no way to dial it back to make it more manageable or anything [00:15:00] like that. And
[:[00:15:01] Lauren Rogers: while other people's stresses and responsibilities might
[:[00:15:05] Lauren Rogers: be to the same extent of going through a court process.
[:[00:15:20] Lauren Rogers: activities, like when you do a life audit and you go, right, something's not working.
[:[00:15:27] Lauren Rogers: here?
[:[00:15:28] Lauren Rogers: I look at my list and I [00:15:30] go,
[:[00:15:31] Lauren Rogers: go.
[:[00:15:32] Lauren Rogers: This
[:[00:15:38] Lauren Rogers: power bill. Exactly. It's because, you
[:[00:15:45] Brain-Based Tools for Real, Lasting Change
[:[00:15:51] Lauren Rogers: That is where I see a modern solution to modern
[:[00:15:55] Lauren Dry: Absolutely. Yeah.
[:[00:15:59] Lauren Rogers:
[:[00:16:07] Lauren Rogers: not because of myself. I think if, if it was something to do with myself, I would wait
[:[00:16:15] Lauren Rogers: that
[:[00:16:16] Lauren Rogers: honestly, pretty pretty on brand.
[:[00:16:21] Lauren Rogers: anything to fix, to take away their hurt, to do anything, I would do anything.
[:[00:16:31] Lauren Rogers: So this, this business really came about, when my eldest son was going through just a huge period of anxiety in his life and it was, again, I studied psychology. I studied childhood [00:16:45] development.
[:[00:16:55] Lauren Rogers: But again, so many things would happen that would [00:17:00] derail what I was doing at home that I just had no
[:[00:17:04] Lauren Dry: Yeah.
[:[00:17:18] Lauren Rogers: at the game. And then he comes off the court in tears going, see, I'm terrible. I can't do it, blah, blah, blah. So
[:[00:17:28] Lauren Rogers: something to be [00:17:30] this
[:[00:17:31] Lauren Rogers: breaker. In what we were doing. Because as hard as I was trying at home with him, with, with everything that I had in my arsenal to throw at this,
[:[00:17:41] Lauren Rogers: beautiful
[:[00:17:44] Lauren Rogers: has [00:17:45] so much to give and he was really struggling so much was heartbreaking.that's when I thought,
[:[00:17:52] Lauren Rogers: know know what?
[:[00:18:12] Lauren Rogers: gone
[:[00:18:20] Lauren Rogers: And, you know, their brains aren't fully formed yet,
[:[00:18:24] Lauren Rogers: to try and access that
[:[00:18:26] Lauren Rogers: of him
[:[00:18:47] Lauren Rogers: brain tap,
[:[00:18:53] Lauren Rogers: and
[:[00:18:55] Lauren Rogers: what I noticed first was not necessarily how he was when [00:19:00] something big happened, but just his baseline level of anxiety just in day-to-day life. one of his signs
[:[00:19:08] Lauren Rogers: asking a lot of questions, mum, do you know where we're going?
[:[00:19:13] Lauren Rogers: But what time do we have to be [00:19:15] there? Da da. Like, these are all the things that he would just naturally ask him. I'd be like, okay, oh my God, he's, he's getting anxious.
[:[00:19:23] Lauren Rogers: ugh, that
[:[00:19:27] Lauren Rogers: so calm.
[:[00:19:28] Lauren Rogers: [00:19:30] so
[:[00:19:32] Lauren Rogers: just dropped hugely. And then when he did start to say, oh mum, I think, I'm starting to feel a little bit nervous and blah, blah.
[:[00:19:57] Lauren Rogers: then worked. in [00:20:00] combination with
[:[00:20:01] Lauren Rogers: BrainTap.
[:[00:20:25] Lauren Dry: it's, you can't move left, you can't move, right? You can't, you, you just have to cope in that [00:20:30] moment. and I think that
[:[00:20:32] Lauren Dry: what you were saying about your stomach as well, rest and digest. The three things that get switched off when you're in a, survival nervous system state, uh, educate, so your ability to learn, your ability to heal and your ability to digest 'cause you [00:20:45] don't need them
[:[00:20:46] Lauren Rogers: you just need to run.
[:[00:20:48] Lauren Rogers: You just
[:[00:20:51] Lauren Dry: But,
[:[00:20:54] Lauren Dry: we start to break down. We, forget so often.
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[:[00:21:51] Lauren Dry: I am determined. I'm so determined to work with what I know to use that as the support system that I need and that my [00:22:00] boys need to get through this stage.
[:[00:22:19] Lauren Dry: Give ourselves grace to give ourselves grace. We're just people, we are human beings. I always say to my clients, we're human beings.
[:[00:22:49] Lauren Rogers: No, you saw me at the very,
[:[00:22:53] Lauren Dry: I did.
[:[00:23:08] Lauren Dry: we, we gain so much pride of like, I can do it myself. And I think we underestimate the gift that we can give other [00:23:15] people by letting them love us.
[:[00:23:17] Lauren Dry: so
[:[00:23:18] Lauren Dry: it comes to not only what you experience personally, but with your son as well, I think it's so important to pause on that moment [00:23:30] of how powerful,
[:[00:23:33] Lauren Dry: it's
[:[00:23:34] Lauren Dry: a neurotechnology, tool, whether it's a, somatic tool, whether it's an unconscious mind tool, whatever tool it is that you feel drawn to, [00:23:45] and that just gets you that little bit closer.
[:[00:23:48] Lauren Dry: It's so important that we pause and say, this
[:[00:23:54] Lauren Dry: because
[:[00:23:55] Lauren Dry: you
[:[00:24:04] Lauren Dry: state.
[:[00:24:05] Lauren Dry: The first time you do it, yeah amazing. You might go home and then you've gotta go straight back into that survival nervous system state and go, right, gotta get it done, gotta get things going.
[:[00:24:16] Lauren Dry: placed. So then you go, the next day you do another somatic tool, or you do another whatever it is that you nervous system feels safe enough to start to access, whether it's small or large. Each time you just do that one more [00:24:30] time.
[:[00:24:50] Lauren Dry: why, in terms of the toolkits that we're all so familiar with, whether it's your own, somatic tools, whether it's your own meditation, whether it's [00:25:00] breath work, whether it's the neurotechnology aspect to it, to this as someone who.
[:[00:25:10] Lauren Dry:
[:[00:25:18] Lauren Dry: age,
[:[00:25:19] Lauren Rogers: just lives off the
[:[00:25:21] Lauren Dry: yeah, I
[:[00:25:22] Lauren Dry: my chickens. I'm good.
[:[00:25:27] Lauren Dry: exploring neurotechnology. [00:25:30] I'm not gonna lie, there was a part of me that was like, oh gosh, what am I getting myself into? is this placebo? Is this, just kind of lights and colors that sound really cool that are gonna
[:[00:25:57] Intro to Brain-Based Healing Tools
[:[00:26:09] Lauren Dry: how it actually works and the data behind it. what did you find so surprising and [00:26:15] so, fulfilling on a personal level, but also as someone who studies
[:[00:26:19] Lauren Rogers:
[:[00:26:21] What Brain Entrainment Actually Means
[:[00:26:22] Lauren Rogers:
[:[00:26:25] Lauren Rogers: so.
[:[00:26:33] Lauren Rogers: of
[:[00:26:41] Lauren Rogers: So
[:[00:26:42] Lauren Rogers: brain naturally [00:26:45] has this phenomena called the frequency following response. So we are, our brains are naturally inclined to mimic certain frequencies that we get and the history of brain entrainment
[:[00:26:59] Lauren Rogers: neuro [00:27:00] technologies you can go back a thousand years. Why is it so comforting and soothing to watch a fire burning?
[:[00:27:17] Lauren Rogers: that such a
[:[00:27:19] Lauren Rogers: These are
[:[00:27:23] Lauren Rogers: various
[:[00:27:25] Lauren Rogers: As people investigated brain entrainment more and more, [00:27:30] then
[:[00:27:31] Lauren Rogers: discovered brainwaves.
[:[00:27:34] Lauren Rogers: brain, like
[:[00:27:43] Lauren Rogers: sleep station, [00:27:45] we have all these stations in between, and they all have different frequencies of brainwaves. So once
[:[00:27:52] How BrainTap Works: The Science Behind It
[:[00:28:06] Lauren Rogers: BrainTap uses frequencies, uh, light and sound to change the station for you. So it specifically has [00:28:15] frequencies.
[:[00:28:16]
[:[00:28:28] Lauren Rogers: The brain picks up [00:28:30] those two frequencies. It senses the difference in the two and it creates a third frequency, which is the difference. So if we want to induce, delta
[:[00:29:01] Lauren Rogers: activity.
[:[00:29:12] Lauren Rogers: their flexibility of their nervous system and [00:29:15] their ability to switch out of that state and move into a parasympathetic state, is
[:[00:29:20] Lauren Rogers: not within their control or is
[:[00:29:23] Lauren Rogers: difficult to do.
[:[00:29:44] Lauren Rogers: [00:29:45] It's used to having the cortisol and the hormones and everything flowing around. That's your new baseline now. So to think that you can be in that state for such a long time and then go and meditate or go on a retreat for a weekend and be like, oh, [00:30:00] cool. I'm all better now. I'm all rest and digest and parasympathetic.
[:[00:30:28] Lauren's Personal Experiences with BrainTap
[:[00:30:29] Lauren Rogers: [00:30:30] with
[:[00:30:34] Lauren Rogers: he ended up having a good experience and his good experiences started outweighing the bad. And so that self-fulfilling prophecy of, oh, I am terrible at this, [00:30:45] because, look what happened.
[:[00:30:46] Lauren Rogers: It became, he, he would have good games or, he would perform well at the school play or whatever it would be.
[:[00:30:52] Lauren Rogers: when he
[:[00:31:02] Lauren Rogers: this, and this. That
[:[00:31:08] Lauren Rogers: It's fine. No, he actually was doing those things. He could logically go, yeah, actually I did do [00:31:15] that. Eventually his good experiences outweighed the bad. If you asked him now he's great, he's a great basketball player, he's good at, like, he was the lead in his class play
[:[00:31:28] Lauren Rogers: I have no doubt [00:31:30] changed the trajectory of his life. Yeah, his inner self-talk and how he feels. Yeah.
[:[00:31:37] Lauren Rogers: it's hugely important to intervene, but also as a part of that process, his younger brother was using the brain tap. [00:31:45] I was using the brain tap and it became a discussion around, this is what we do for good brain health.
[:[00:32:06] Lauren Rogers: He's, you know, we're in very much in a stage now where he wants a punching bag and things like that. Great, great. [00:32:15] Get that out of you when you have these feelings, as you were saying, there's somatic therapies, which I'm a really big fan of
[:[00:32:24] Lauren Dry: Curiosity. he's got already, that's amazing. That's like I am dysregulated. I
[:[00:32:33] Why Regulation Matters More Than Mindset
[:[00:32:39] Lauren Dry: And this is my identity without realizing if we have a little bit of, just a bit of a gap [00:32:45] and an understanding that so much of what we do and what we say. Is driven by our unconscious mind, they're automatic. And if we can create a little gap there, then we've got a lot more mastery. And I think a lot of people, they, they hold off from using somatic tools, [00:33:00] from working with the unconscious mind, which we specialize with at Rise.
[:[00:33:34] Lauren Dry: Okay, do I wanna play basketball? Maybe I'm no good at basketball. Maybe I wanna go play something else. Or is it
[:[00:33:41] Lauren Dry: Well, do you know what?
[:[00:33:43] Lauren Rogers: on to other things
[:[00:33:45] Lauren Dry: if he had missed that opportunity to say because of the rumination or the self-talk. And, you know, for adults it's, resentment, it is bitterness, it is, hidden trauma patterns, is it me, is it them? Is it us together? [00:34:00] And I think what you've said there is so powerful around that blend. Okay. Come back, regulate, get some clarity, have some evidence around what you are working with, you are a good basketball player and [00:34:15] in relationships it's, Hey, what I'm asking for is, is is pretty good.
[:[00:34:34] Lauren Dry: And that doesn't necessarily mean leaving your partner straight away, but it certainly means creating new boundaries where they either are invited to join you within those new boundaries or [00:34:45] then you've got two best case scenarios. Okay?
[:[00:35:03] Lauren Dry: I, I have grit now and that is an essential component to, creating resilience in children, emotional resilience, having richness around their emotional capacity as well. that is a, has a [00:35:15] flow on effect to their relationship. So that blend that he's now got of evidence, but also the regulation required to be able to see the evidence.
[:[00:35:25] Lauren Rogers: Yeah. But he got to make, he got to make that choice. And so many [00:35:30] people, when that was happening, turned to me and like, maybe it's just not for him. Like maybe it's just not his sport. Why don't you just let him quit? And it, I said no, because he loves it.
[:[00:35:54] Hope in the Data: Real Client Transformations
[:[00:36:20] Lauren Dry: Right
[:[00:36:30] Lauren Rogers: It was so wonderful for other people to be able to see that side of him and not just see him as this anxious kid who was really struggling. And so,it's always wonderful and each client is unique and has unique [00:36:45] challenges and it's always really such a privilege to be able to be with someone during a really hard period and offer them some relief or offer them some support. but I have to say this was, [00:37:00] this business was born through the idea of that what an amazing thing to be able to intervene in a young child's life and change something that is going to influence their self-esteem [00:37:15] and their self-worth and their perception of who they are for the rest of their life.
[:[00:37:44] Lauren Rogers: [00:37:45] So it's really, really wonderful. And all the kids that I do get to work with, are just, they're just gorgeous and it's so lovely. It's so great to see the data and see the physiological changes, but I have to say the feedback that you get from parents about [00:38:00] what happened is,
[:[00:38:02] Lauren Rogers: It's just all, that's the stuff that I
[:[00:38:05] Lauren Rogers: It's so nice.
[:[00:38:08] Lauren Rogers: Yes.
[:[00:38:12] Lauren Rogers: You're,
[:[00:38:15] Lauren Rogers: Yes.
[:[00:38:15] Lauren Dry: So, for the audience last week I went into Lauren's clinic and I had a brain scan when I first came in. it was a little chaotic when I first came in uh, two kids in tow was in between appointments. so again, I was looking forward to it, but it was a little [00:38:30] bit, oh, okay.
[:[00:38:47] Lauren Dry: Ooh, girl. like, let's have a look. Sit down.
[:[00:39:12] Lauren Dry: It's not something that you would do in the middle of your lunch day. so a lot of [00:39:15] the tools that we, we support our clients with are things that you can use in the moment. And I tell you right now, sitting there in that brain tap and having that experience. Oh, it was so restful. It just felt like such a breath of fresh air and I felt different afterwards. That was [00:39:30] powerful. So, I'd like to go over the results with you
[:[00:39:37] Lauren Dry: all right, here we go.
[:[00:40:04] Lauren Dry: sounds great though.
[:[00:40:23] Lauren Rogers: So we have vagal tone and parasympathetic activity. We have autonomic flexibility and your stress [00:40:30] balance. We have acute stress and regulatory load, and then we have neural humeral regulation.
[:[00:40:48] Lauren Rogers: It was pretty good. It definitely showed that you were stressed. It definitely inferred that you have been stressed for a little while, [00:41:00] so.
[:[00:41:03] Lauren Rogers: I know what you've been doing, so I know that you've been working really hard, and so that really, that tracked. that was, I think kind of expected, but the changes that we saw [00:41:15] post BrainTap was such a wonderful response, and it confirmed the fact that you still do have a lot of flexibility within your nervous system because putting you in the brain tap elicited such a strong parasympathetic [00:41:30] response, and that's not always common. So people, as I said before, people who have been in a chronic state of sympathetic activation, often find it really difficult to access the parasympathetic.
[:[00:41:55] Lauren Rogers: And it's by taking those multiple data points that we can start to see the [00:42:00] effect of the brain tap and we can infer what benefits they're having from doing that and what shift we're seeing in the various systems in their body. Yeah, so I think when we are talking about vagal tone, that's probably the most important part for your results here.
[:[00:42:25] Lauren Dry: Fun,
[:[00:42:26] Lauren Dry: Not, uh,
[:[00:42:31] Lauren Dry: Work for improvement,
[:[00:42:32] Lauren Dry: Room for improvement.
[:[00:42:53] Lauren Dry: Yeah. I love, oh my gosh. If anyone has ever looked into, what's that documentary about the placebo effect? It's fascinating. The power of the brain [00:43:00] is a very, very cool thing but yeah, I really wanted to speak into that as if you're a skeptic about, the power of the placebo effect, the power of the brain. but yeah,
[:[00:43:15] Lauren Rogers: But when we look at these data points, we can see that not only was there one data point that suggested that you had low vagal tone, there were several data points that were supporting that.
[:[00:43:48] Lauren Dry: yeah,
[:[00:43:48] Lauren Rogers: post BrainTap your high frequency power shot up to above the normative range, so it went to 1,308. Your PN 50 went within [00:44:00] normal ranges, so that went up to 31.
[:[00:44:10] Lauren Dry: Yeah.
[:[00:44:24] Lauren Rogers: The other metrics are probably more of the moment and can be influenced more readily. This speaks a [00:44:30] little bit more to long-term stress. So again, normative range, 20 to 50. You started at nine.
[:[00:44:48] Lauren Dry: Which I'm gonna come I’m regularly cause I really, really loved it.
[:[00:44:56] Lauren Dry: hyperbaric chamber, that's what I want
[:[00:45:14] Lauren Rogers: [00:45:15] So that's, that's another, really big metric
[:[00:45:26] Lauren Dry: So, I'm in a season and what I talk to my clients as well is [00:45:30] make sure if you have deadlines, they're smart.
[:[00:45:50] Lauren Dry: Yeah. Stay tuned for the next couple of months while we smash those deadlines out. That, whew loving reminder, if you are working above your capacity, keep it timed, [00:46:00] guys. Keep it timed. Don't keep it sustained.
[:[00:46:08] Lauren Dry: And that extra space. I do a lot of, the work when I'm together with my clients, so co-create that space with [00:46:15] them, which is really good. but having that, that opportunity to get out in a way and coming into your clinic was really cool as well I loved that.
[:[00:46:30] Lauren Dry: Exactly exactly
[:[00:46:41] Lauren Dry: like coach. a
[:[00:46:42] Lauren Dry: like a coach guys if you need a [00:46:45] coach,
[:[00:46:50] Lauren Dry: but it is, it's such a loving accountability moment of like, I feel like we've come full circle with this podcast about how important it is to just ask for help. Whatever it looks like for you, [00:47:00] whatever it looks like for you. Don't be afraid to be a human. Okay.
[:[00:47:04] Lauren Dry: We all have these moments in time where we're going to have stressful seasons, we're going to have stressful situations that we're dealing with, stressful relationships, stressful parenting.
[:[00:47:45] Lauren Rogers: Oh god,
[:[00:47:46] Lauren Rogers: I'm so sorry.
[:[00:48:02] Lauren Dry: I'm gonna ask you first. What would you leave the audience with?
[:[00:48:20] Lauren Dry: mm-hmm
[:[00:48:57] Lauren Rogers: I would rather people not [00:49:00] follow me down that path and just learn, learn, from what I've learned and learn that there are.
[:[00:49:32] Lauren Dry: well, that brings me to the last two questions. One, is a question that I asked, my last podcast guest, uh, to leave for my next podcast guest, and that [00:49:45] question was, why do you do what you do.
[:[00:50:07] Lauren Rogers: And I actually had that engraved on something and it's in my room and I see it every morning when I wake up. And that is the whole [00:50:15] business plan.
[:[00:50:17] Lauren Rogers: There is, uh, whether that's a good business plan or not, I don't, know, but that is what, it is, that is my gift and I give it away.
[:[00:50:32] Lauren Rogers: I wanna say what is, what is your joy? But you know, if, if it's, it's not your work. It's not your work, it's not your family, it's not these things. But what is your [00:50:45] joy?
[:[00:50:46] Lauren Rogers: And Yes. And they can't say work or family or anything like that.
[:[00:50:56] Lauren Rogers: what is my joy. Um, creating [00:51:00] things. I'm not necessarily that amazing at anything, but I love pottery and I love making, I love building a business and I love painting.
[:[00:51:11] Lauren Rogers: All those things.
[:[00:51:12] Lauren Rogers: Yeah.
[:[00:51:15] Lauren Rogers: Oh thank you.
[:[00:51:19] Lauren Rogers: So www.NeuroBalance.Clinic is the website. You can get a whole bunch of information there. You can also book in for a [00:51:30] program.I work with
[:[00:51:33] Lauren Rogers: Yes. So instagram, Facebook, I'm getting better at Facebook Instagram is going well Facebook, I'm not, I'm not great at social media, but it's building out there. but yes, [00:51:45] or you can book a free 15 minute call with me through the website as well, to talk through your unique, situation and how this could possibly help you and get really specific about what your program would [00:52:00] entail.
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